Josh R – Recovery Dharma – 323

Do you struggle with the God language in the 12 steps? Josh did. His inability to fully engage with the steps was probably a factor in his relapses.

Josh talks with us about a couple of recovery programs based on Buddhist principles, centered on meditative practices. These programs are Recovery Dharma and Refuge Recovery.

Our discussion was wide-ranging, centered on these topics:

  • What is a meeting like?
  • How did you come to these programs?
  • How are they similar to 12-step recovery programs?
    • Both have group settings where members share.
    • Both have an underlying spiritual practice.
    • Recovery Dharma/Refuge Recovery have “inquiries” — similar to inventory
    • Mentors (like sponsor)
    • Literature
    • Speakers in AA / Teachers in Dharma
    • Endorsement / encouragement from recovery programs (e.g. court papers)
  • How do they differ?
    • Spiritual foundation is different.
    • Recovery Dharma incorporates some modern psychology elements. Especially in dealing with trauma.
  • Do you have to be Buddhist to participate?
  • How do they speak to you / support you in your own recovery?
  • Would this recovery program be helpful to someone whose primary problem is co-dependency? 

Readings and Links

Josh read from the AA book Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions, page 98.

Recovery Dharma website.

Refuge Recovery website.

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Oh Wonder – Landslide
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