Consequences – Episode 245

Do you try to reduce the consequences of your loved one’s choices and actions?  Do you have trouble enforcing consequences on undesirable behavior by others?


  1. a result or effect of an action or condition.

synonyms: result, upshot, outcome, effect, repercussion, ramification, corollary, concomitant, aftermath, after effect;

  • Setting Consequences
    • I have to be willing to enforce them.
    • They should be realistic and relate to the behavior.
    • They should impact the other person more than me!
    • What is the difference between “threat” and “consequences”?
    • When I set a boundary and consequences for violating that boundary, am I attempting to control or manipulate another’s behavior?
  • Consequences of OTHER people’s behavior – Is NOT my business
    • When I “do for others what they are capable of doing for themselves”, I set myself up as enabling, and deny them the natural consequences, good or bad, of their actions.  Resentment, disappointment, anger…
    • When I try to instill consequences, punishment, discipline, I often exacerbate an issue and set myself up yet again, for resentment, disappointment, anger…
    • A definition of “enabling” that I learned is “getting between someone and the consequences of their actions.” (see Courage to Change January 5, June 16)
  • Consequences of MY behavior – IS my business
    • When I take care of myself, …
      • Feel better
      • Act better
      • Cope better
    • When I do not take care of myself I…
      • Blame
      • Resent
      • Slip into old behavior
      • Get sick, angry, lonely, tired
  • Mentioned or implied in several slogans including Live and Let Live, Let Go and Let God, One Day at a Time


We read from at least some of these articles.

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Obsessive Thinking – Episode 197

Do you obsess over your loved one's drinking? Do you keep chewing over past actions or wrongs done to you? How can we stop?

  • What is obsessive thinking? What are some other words?
    • Wallowing (in negativity/fear/anger)
    • Resentment (as we discussed last week)
    • Ruminating / chewing over (past wrongs / future problems)
    • Looping
  • What sorts of obsessive thoughts do I have? (… have I had?)
    • Getting the alcoholic to stop drinking.
    • Counting drinks.
    • The problems I had in my life (as a result of the drinking).
    • Money problems.
    • What could happen (the worst, of course).
    • Things I did that I feel shame about (kicking myself over and over.)
  • Why is it a problem?
    • Takes time from things I can do.
    • Depresses my mood.
    • Sleeplessness.
    • “We who have been affected by someone else’s drinking find ourselves inexplicably haunted by insecurity, fear, guilt, obsession with others, or an overwhelming need to control every person and situation we encounter.” How Al-Anon Works Chapter 1
  • Tools for relieving obsessive thinking?
    • Detachment
    • Slogans: “How important is it?”, “One day at a time”, “Just for today”, “Let go and let God”
    • THINK / Pause (Courage to Change – Mar 4) Before I get into trouble, before I open my mouth to react, or get lost in obsessive analysis of another person’s behavior, or worrying about the future, I can Stop. Then I can Look at what is going on and my role in it. Then I can Listen for spiritual guidance that will remind me of my options and help me find healthy words and actions.
    • Letting go
    • Gratitude list
      • Often I’ll detour at a particular letter and find myself giving thanks for apples and alexandrites, apothecaries and astronauts, ants and anchovies, or bottles and bakeries, bumblebees and blueberries, bathtubs and brushes. The more overwhelming the problem I’m entertaining, the more my gratitude list helps me. First, by taking my mind off of my obsession, and second, by reminding me of the multitude of delightful and peculiar items in the world around me. (Having Had a Spiritual Awakening Chapter 8)
    • Think of something positive: “… when my thoughts race out of control, I need to stop. I may do this by breathing deeply and looking at my surroundings. It can help to replace the obsessive thoughts with something positive, such as an Al-Anon slogan, the Serenity Prayer, or another comforting topic that has nothing to do with my problem.” Courage to Change Nov 1.
    • Do something: listen to music, go for a walk, play a game, do a puzzle …
    • Serenity Prayer (praying for HP will)
    • “God Box”
      • On a note, I write down the name of the person about whom I am so distressed or angry, or describe the situation that is killing me, with which I am so toxically, crazily obsessed, and I fold the note up, stick it in the box and close it. You might have a brief moment of prayer, and it might come out sounding like this: “Here. You think you’re so big? Fine. You deal with it. Although I have a few more excellent ideas on how best to proceed.” Help, Thanks, Wow (p. 36).

    Some other links:

    Deepak Chopra: How to stop anxiety and obsessive thoughts

    Georgia Psychological Assn: How to Stop Obsessive Worry

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    Resentment – Episode 196

    Do you hold a grudge? Why is this harmful? How can our program help let go of our resentments?

    • What is a “resentment”?
    • Why is it a problem?
    • Where do you find your resentments stem from?
      • Anger at a past injury?
      • Others not doing things “your way”?
    • One method of working Step 4 (“searching and fearless moral inventory”) starts by listing resentments.
      • Why do you think that is?
      • Why can this be a useful way of digging into our inventory?
    • The book How Al-Anon Works talks about resentment in the chapter titled “Detachment, Love, and Forgiveness”.
      • How do these tools help relieve our resentments?
      • What other tools do you use?
      • Gratitude
      • Inventory
      • Taking a fresh look — maybe the behavior has changed and I don’t recognize it

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    Expectations – Episode 186

    Do you have unrealistic expectations of other people? Or, maybe, of yourself? How does this hurt?

    • What are “expectations”?
    • “Expectations are pre-meditated resentments” — how do you see this as true?
    • How can expectations set you up for disappointment?
    • How do your expectations of yourself hurt you?
    • How do you deal with other people's expectations of you?
    • How do you
      • let go of unrealisitic expectations?
      • set realistic / reasonable expectations and boundaries?
    • When has letting go of expectations improved an experience for you?

    Eric referred to several other websites:

    A correspondant mentioned the Hand in Hand Parenting support organization and how it had helped her.

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    Forgiveness is critical to recovery – Episode 174

    What does it mean to forgive? Why do we talk of “finding” forgiveness? And who really gains from forgiveness?

    • What does forgiveness mean?
      • Dictionary
        Merriam Webster has this simple definition of the word forgive: “to stop feeling anger toward (someone who has done something wrong) : to stop blaming (someone)”
        And also this: “to give up resentment of”
      • To me?
    • How did I understand forgiveness before recovery?
      • Forgiving meant condoning the other person’s actions?
      • If I forgave someone, I had to like them, be ok with their company?
      • They had to apologize first?
      • If I forgave, I had to “forget”?
    • What new understandings of forgiveness did I discover?
    • One of the “gifts of Al-Anon” in From Survival to Recovery is this: “As we gain the ability to forgive our families, the world, and ourselves our choices will expand.”
      • How do I understand this gift?
      • How have I seen it happen in my life?
    • How does forgiveness help me?
    • What if someone did something truly unforgiveable?
      • How can I forgive them or their action?
      • Why would I want to?
    • What story or stories can I share about
      • Finding forgiveness
      • Having difficulty finding forgiveness
      • Forgiving without forgetting.
    • What would I say to a newcomer about forgiveness “the Al-Anon way”?

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